Seeing it this Tuesday; been working on the parody for it. I did meet the Andrei Constantine (casting creator and director of Legacy Casting, which casted all the extras for OHF and various other blockbusters which shoot in non-union states) the other day though in person for once.
Yes, will always help out when possible. For now, I think if you want more people coming to this wiki, we have to invite people from the other wikis. I know now we're included in a footer for other blockbuster action oriented films and shows.
When you see it on Tuesday, you make sure to get the kill count for Mike Banning in that movie. I got some of earlier ones, just not the later ones. You should check for other things that can be useful for the OHF wiki and such.
Yeah, I need to finally add some of the other performer's pages or at least create the pages and worry about all the information and pictures later.
I tend to find kill counting easy; just harder to do when you have to keep track of other character's kills. Was wild how Mike Banning is similar to Jack Bauer and he ended up killing a perfect 24 in the first film.
Saw the film and got approximately 48-51 kills for Banning while President Asher surprisingly sneaks in 3 kills James Marshall style.
Can't say the story was improved as it went all out implausible (while the first sort of felt like it tried to make the implausible dramatically rewarding) but this had surprising amounts of off-color humor and better fights I'd reckon.
Wasn't much information to add as all the other supporting characters either had minor lines or limited roles.
Sort of felt more at home as an Expendables type spin-off being a Nu Image/Millennium Films production and all. Fortunately, it avoided being White House Down where it couldn't decide any actual tone to take.
Alright, good to know about the approximate count for Mike Banning's kill count. I got about 23 Banning kills in the OHF wiki from the beginning to the MI6 safe house part. The last part is difficult to tell because of all the excitement at that time.
Well, that the ones in the White House situation room, had some limited roles, but at least they appeared.
That was good that they do any White House Down stuff on it.
Yeah, also got up to 21 until the fight in the safe house where President Asher unexpectedly breaks his pacifist views by shooting the man who Banning had just stabbed.
All the other edits were slightly hectic but hard to keep up with due to so many people getting back up after actually being wounded. I actually rechecked and got 58 something kills but suspect I could get a better number if I rechecked an online copy.
Either way, it wore it's implausibility tone with great pride.
Surprisingly there wasn't many characters to detail as they were rather minor in comparison to the rest of the plot, even the main VP's cabinet sort of felt like the actors in glorified cameos. Banning was also way more over the top this go-around. I guess that happens when you don't want to repeat the same scenario once more.
I checked the trailers in the London Underground stop before the smoke grenade was added to that scene. There were at least 6 of them in there, which is why I added 2 more in that part before Banning killed the ones in there.
Yeah, first it looked like 5 then it looked like an extra one as well as finding it hard to tell if one of the ones shot at was the same guy who was partially wounded and later stabbed by Banning over the walkie talkie.
This is the cast of my 7x14 with some changes on it as well.
Main Cast: Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer Mary Lynn Rasjkub as Chloe O’Brian Cherry Jones as President Allison Taylor Annie Wersching as Renee Walker Bob Gunton as Ethan Kanin Jeffrey Nordling as Larry Moss Rhys Coiro as Sean Hillinger
with Janeane Garofalo as Janis Gold
and Carlos Bernard as Tony Almeida
Guest Starring: Carlo Rota as Morris O’Brian Michael Ironside as Henry Griggs Sprague Grayden as Olivia Taylor Rory Cochrane as Greg Seaton Titus Welliver as Edward Mathis Tim Guinee as Ken Dellao Sebastian Roche as John Quinn Daniela Ruah as Elena Ribeiro Troy Winbush as Terrell Hogan Lesley Fera as Angela Nelson Michael Papajohn as Sam Baker Vic Chao as Mark Dornan Terrell Tifford as Reynolds Billoah Greene as Alves Vince Vieluf as Hatcher Romano Orzari as Weight
Special Guest Appearance by: Jon Voight as Jonas Hodges
Co-Starring: Lucas Ford as FBI administrative agent Marci Michelle as Marci Lamont (as "FBI Desk Agent") Pablo Espinosa as Mayer's Driver Anthony DeSantis as FBI agent Mark Stefanich as Russell (one of Griggs’s men) Christopher Michael as FBI policeman #1 Edward Fernandez as Perez (one of Griggs’s men) Omar Leyva as FBI policeman #2 Michael B. Silver as Griggs's technician #1 Jen Sung as Lung (one of Griggs’s men) Tony Lazzara as Battaglia (one of Griggs’s men) Dennis Keiffer as Griggs’s operative #16 Sam Ayers as Griggs’s operative #17 Carl Paoli as Griggs’s operative #15 Samuel Hunt as Griggs's technician #2
Uncredited: Randall Archer as FBI agent Charlie Brewer as Griggs's operative #2 Dana Bunch as Agent Teller William H. Burton Jr. as Griggs's operative #22 Tim Connolly as Griggs's operative #21 Sophia Crawford as FBI agent Brett DeLuca as Agent Charters or Agent Turner Tony Donno as FBI agent killed by Mathis Joe Dryden as Griggs's operative #20 Jesse Escochea as FBI policeman Jim Ford as Griggs’s operative #10 Regis Harrington as Griggs's operative #5 Brian Hite as Griggs’s operative #11 Greg Hutto as FBI policeman Steve Lanza as Agent Reed David Robert Lewis as Agent Charters or Agent Turner Danny Le Boyer as Griggs’s operative #14 David S. Lomax as Griggs's operative #18 Tom Lowell as Griggs's operative #7 Jalil Jay Lynch as FBI agent killed by Baker Anthony Martins as Griggs's operative #12 Eddie Matthews as FBI agent Dustin Meier as Griggs’s operative #13 John Meier as FBI policeman killed by Griggs Manny Perry as Griggs’s operative #8 Mark Riccardi as Griggs’s operative #19 Jimmy Romano as Griggs's operative #6 Erik Rondell as Griggs's operative #4 Tim Sitarz as Griggs's operative #9 Justin Sundquist as Hirschberger (One of Griggs's men) John Tuck as Griggs's operative #1 Lee Villeneuve as Griggs's operative #3 Brian Waller as FBI agent Gary J. Wayton as FBI agent
I apologize; I could've sworn I replied to this yet somehow my reply didn't go through.
Either way, I think you personalized the background characters better as opposed to just giving them various throwaday dialogue and kept the pace flowing (something important when it's 24).
I did dig your ER cross-over with that show far more though since it felt like you did you best to muster the chaotic drama of both worlds and find a plausible way to make both worlds cross over as opposed to what other fan-fics or official cross-over movies/shows do which is become far more random.
Hmm...well, I'm still working on my chapter of my 24 AU, which is the AU 7x15.
For my 24/ER crossover fic, I viewed Jack/Renee as the next Doug/Carol. When I have time for it, I could write an scene in the hospital like how that Home Depot store in The Equalizer later on in the story.
BTW, I edited the top of this message with some additional stunt peformers I imagined in my first chapter.
If I had time and energy, I'd love to do more crossovers. Problem is, I could probably get the scenarios down but would have trouble getting the right one-liners or dialogue for a previously established character.
It's been mentioned before as another real time film where the main hero can't leave the building and has to save his daughter not just another assassination thriller. It comes up in several DHS movie lists.
Well that goes for more of these Die Hard knock-offs and sequels whehter it's a tribute movie or a clone just like with the airplane-based films play into political thriller territory if not disaster or spy movie tropes.
As opposed to a full-blown action film, it's part mystery as well because it's trying to tie in what people what in a thriller. It gets the Die Hard clone award because it also has the hero signaling for help amongst other patrons and outside authority figures while also having villains who aren't exactly who they appear to be on the surface. It also has the hero be the unlikely type as opposed to the off-duty cop so it's just adding in some originality.
I'm setting new rules. No one is to add any film articles or any character articles without my consent because I'm seeing a majority of films that are not DHS type films being added on here and I'm not too pleased by it. From now on, you and Altrich will answer to me and Votesmall about which films that are DHS or not. Okay?
All of these films on here have been cited and we're going to always come down to films we don't directly agree with regardless of who said what or agreed with what. I was often on the fence with how Broken Arrow or Phone Booth counted but after seeing the various comparisons, I still understand why regardless on whether or not I agree.
Either way, they are all cited and a discussion panel has been requested and hasn't happened yet since people are busy or not making time for it so what are we to do other than take this with a grain of salt?
I've asked you about various films and you have either not looked at the links or simply said "I don't think so/let me think about it" and I would say if there's three different sources claiming a film is a DHS film that that's solid evidence enough.
Plus, just about any movie involving some mistaken identity laden person on the run, trapped in a building, facing off with a mad bomber, a real time format scenario or what is simply a guy facing off with goons in a building using spy gear is going to be called a Die Hard type film by the creators/critics/audience members even if it's only 1/3 of what happens on-screen.
That's the problem with Mission: Impossible, much like the various American and Indian films that are a mash-up of every other Action film series.
The original TV series has no relevance but the movie series is often compared to McClane's series since it's always involving a building inviltrating and having the hero dispatch dozens of henchman while also mixing in Alfred Hitchcock story elements (hence Brian de Palma's influence), James Bond-inspired spy technology and even ripped off elements like other DHS films like the virus unleashing in Executive Decision and the same type of stunts from Cliffhanger.
Most of the spy films that aren't DHS are just John Le Carre or Robert Ludlum type material but half the time, those are being based on what the current Action movie standard is or based on Bond/Bourne/Bauer.
Okay, we've already shown that The Last Stand is an Assault on Precinct 13 clone much like other DHS clones.
And the Bourne films are inspired by new James Bond DHS films so that's why they're on this list. The videogame was included because it bared much resemblance with the Die Hard films and Die Hard Trilogy.
I didn't know he already created that and assumed he had something to go on. That was my mistake for making that assumption.
Either way, let's figure out this Last Stand nonsense. So we're covering any DHS films, Votesmail brings it up, votes "Yay", you're iffy on it then I bring it up with a mixed to favorable opinion then it's like "It doesn't count because of the car chases."
Well, regardless of the vote and how much of a building or enclosed film it was or wasn't, we were already making a fuss about High Noon and how it inspired the cowboy character of McClane so is any Western banned from this wikia as a result?
Because McClane is referred to as a cowboy and many Action and Crime films share much of the same elements with Westerns.
Okay, well, let's figure out this whole "Westerns don't count" rule then if we're going to state that since virtually anything could be dubbed a "Western" even if it doesn't have cowboys, outlaws, gunplay or horseback riding.